Author Topic: Hippoedit vs Totaledit and Notepad++  (Read 11188 times)

Evi01

  • Guest
Hippoedit vs Totaledit and Notepad++
« on: February 24, 2009, 05:03:21 pm »
I would like hippoedit to be able collapsing xml files. I mean, not just "<" and "/"  characters as Totaledit, but keeping some easy rules as Notepad++. Notepad++ can collapse xml files perfectly.
(Otherwise, I don't like Notepad++ at all)

Offline Stefan

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 775
  • Karma: +6/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Hippoedit vs Totaledit and Notepad++
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2009, 05:30:05 pm »
>I would like hippoedit to be able collapsing xml files.

Did you have seen HippoEDIT already have this => http://www.hippoedit.com/

Here are an picture to compare Notepad++ and HippoEDIT..... can you tell us what you miss please?

BTW
Hi Evi01, shouldn't this thread be in "Features Request" forum?
Because this is no comparison of two editors but an suggestion for an specific feature.

Offline Arthur

  • Registered User
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 653
  • Karma: +1/-0
  • He who is ashamed of asking is afraid of learning.
    • View Profile
    • My Blog
Re: Hippoedit vs Totaledit and Notepad++
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2009, 07:48:20 pm »
I can tell you that the ability of working with databases sounds especially appealing to me in TotalEdit. I am missing this feature in HE.

Evi01

  • Guest
Re: Hippoedit vs Totaledit and Notepad++
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2009, 08:53:00 pm »
Hi Stefan,
Would you try it with an other xml file, not with a hippo configuration file, please? (Sorry my bad english)

Offline Stefan

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 775
  • Karma: +6/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Hippoedit vs Totaledit and Notepad++
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2009, 10:27:34 pm »

Offline alex

  • Developer
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2161
  • Karma: +37/-3
    • View Profile
    • HippoEDIT
Re: Hippoedit vs Totaledit and Notepad++
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2009, 12:39:02 am »
Hello Evi01,

I know what you mean. And you are right. Support of the XML in HippOEDIT rather weak.

1) The support of highlighting of attributes and Node names is not really suffisticated. The reason for this, there are no rules in HE currently which can define highligting for such type of text. Elements is first word inside the tag and attribute is word ended with =. But I am working on it and maybe would be availbale already in nexts 1.42 betas.

2) Calculation of the outlining for XML like languages is also very specific. They do no have special tags marking start/end of scope, but tag can be any pair of words inside of open close tag. HE does not have algortihm as for parsion outlinig of such style as even for definining this. Also outlining parsing for Python like languages is missing (indent based). And I dont plan to to do this soon, at least in 1.42. So would take some time.

The Notepad++ (Scintilla based editors) can do this, because for any synatx it requre hardcoded parser. HE works with generic parser, controled by synatx schema. So I need to invent first logic of definition of the rule and then usng it, without reducing perfomance. And this is usually more complex then partial solution...

Best regards,
Alex

cichlasoma

  • Guest
Re: Hippoedit vs Totaledit and Notepad++
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2010, 05:19:53 pm »
Just a note on Notepad++ - I don't like it very much and I wonder why is it so popular. But - there is one quality in which it excells nevertheless - I mean stability. A have never experienced it freezing or crashing. On the other hand, I have been using HE for about three days and it freezed two times already... (Otherwise, HE is better in every respect, IMO.)

Offline alex

  • Developer
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2161
  • Karma: +37/-3
    • View Profile
    • HippoEDIT
Re: Hippoedit vs Totaledit and Notepad++
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2010, 07:56:00 pm »
Hi cichlasoma,

Sorry for this. If you can reproduce it, send me it as bug report and I will check.
Is CPU resources consumed or it is just hangs? Do you single core CPU?

Best regards,
Alex.

cichlasoma

  • Guest
Re: Hippoedit vs Totaledit and Notepad++
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2010, 08:21:28 pm »
alex: I have dual core CPU. Unfortunetaly, I'm not able to reproduce it so far, once it happened after I simply pressed Enter to make a new line, second time I pressed some key combiantion by mistake, I don't know which one.
In the both cases, HE responded to nothing, was displaying the "waiting sandglass" forever, I closed the window with its close button both times (Windows said "The application is not repsonding, do you want to to teminate it now?"), I didn't examine the processor's load, will do so next time... :)

Offline alex

  • Developer
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2161
  • Karma: +37/-3
    • View Profile
    • HippoEDIT
Re: Hippoedit vs Totaledit and Notepad++
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2010, 06:47:36 pm »
What has HE against of Notepad++ (only pros):
- Overview Bar
- Hierarchy Bar
- Navigation Bar (Notepad++ has Function List, but it is not supported in newses Unicode versions)
- Code Hints
- Code templates
- more intelligent auto completion
- auto-correction
- set of smart formatters (for example smart comment)
- hover informers (image preview on hover, color preview etc)
- more intelligent Smart Highlight (checks language, scope, styles etc)
- print preview, printing in columns
- More powerful project support
- better tools support
- editing functions
- scope highlighting
- nested levels
- real styles (color) layering
- better multi syntax source support
- better support for custom syntaxes
- I think a lot of other stuff :)

but of course Notepad++ also has some features which are not yet in HE

 

Related Topics

  Subject / Started by Replies Last post
10 Replies
6715 Views
Last post June 04, 2009, 01:56:32 pm
by JJK
7 Replies
2643 Views
Last post April 16, 2009, 01:54:14 pm
by allen
4 Replies
1929 Views
Last post May 24, 2009, 05:54:43 am
by scottbilas
10 Replies
7623 Views
Last post April 23, 2010, 12:02:21 pm
by DrakonHaSh
1 Replies
1133 Views
Last post December 11, 2010, 01:49:09 am
by alex