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Re: Other Editors which I like
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2010, 01:36:17 am »
I have checked EditPad several times, but never seen something exciting (this is probably lack of knowledge).
For me UI a little bit strange, usability... also.

With a feature set, I will not agree. It has a lot but it goes in a little bit different direction then HE.
In EditPad, as I see, they want to add as much features as possible. And also not really editor related. Same problem can be found in UltraEdit (or PsPad) but in much more harder way.
I HE I try to concentrate on editor itself, and make most powerful (from data representation and functionality) but in same time not overloaded.
Also if I need to decide about making existing functionality better or add new one, I will select first.

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Re: Other Editors which I like
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2010, 02:33:05 am »
I have checked EditPad several times, but never seen something exciting (this is probably lack of knowledge).
For me UI a little bit strange, usability... also.

As for UI, I find menus logically organized and transparent, tool bars are customizable and colors used in GUI as well.

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With a feature set, I will not agree. It has a lot but it goes in a little bit different direction then HE.
In EditPad, as I see, they want to add as much features as possible. And also not really editor related. Same problem can be found in UltraEdit (or PsPad) but in much more harder way.

Maybe you are right, I didn't examine EditPad features thoroughly. I like it largely because of the fact, it has all the features I name in my first post in this thread, which is very rare (although I cannot understand it). Moreover, it's very fast (in terms of starting at least). As for the features, it lacks an integrated browser e.g., it cannot display visual glyphs for word wrap and generally, I found several features which HE has and EP has not, while I found very little extra features in EP (which was due to insufficient examination probably). :-)

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I HE I try to concentrate on editor itself, and make most powerful (from data representation and functionality) but in same time not overloaded.
Also if I need to decide about making existing functionality better or add new one, I will select first.

As for me, I support this approach wholeheartedly... :-)
« Last Edit: May 10, 2010, 02:35:32 am by cichlasoma »

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Re: Other Editors which I like
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2010, 02:40:34 am »
(As you mentioned UltraEdit - I tried the trial several times but I always encountered the problem that when I paste a czech text into it via clipboard from another application, the special characters (like ěščřžýáíéůú) are displayed in a wrong way... :( )

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Re: Other Editors which I like
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2010, 08:11:04 am »
Similarly with NoteTab - it keeps displaying special czech characters in a wrong way untill I save the file and load it again. Curiously, I encounter problems with czech alphabet in trials of comercial editors much more than in free ones.
As for NoteTab Pro - similarly to SublimeText, it's a nice application to play with without many reasons to use it as one's main editor, IMHO. The clip managing (it's main feature, as far as I understand) is a nice toy but the work is done by other editors as well in simplier ways. (Morever, there's no way to set a keyboard shortcut to individual clips.) Well, it's own format .otl for managing outlines is a handy feature perhaps...
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Re: Other Editors which I like
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2010, 08:20:59 am »
 EControl Syntax Editor would be very nice, but it forgets all the settings after restart :-(((

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Re: Other Editors which I like
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2010, 02:34:18 pm »
About losing of the czech symbols, I think reason is non Unicode editor and using of non-unicode clipboard format.
If editor has not been updated for a long time, this can be often met.

Have never checked EControl Syntax Editor before. From first look it also based on SynEdit component and has a lot of Borland/CodeGear features like sync edit for example. Also nice that it can change font/style of already highlighted text parts and allow to use different fonts for different styles (as Scintilla based).

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Re: Other Editors which I like
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2010, 02:44:04 pm »
About losing of the czech symbols, I think reason is non Unicode editor and using of non-unicode clipboard format.
If editor has not been updated for a long time, this can be often met.

You mean the edito from which I transfer a text via clipboard? The thing is, when I paste into another another editor than UE, it's displayed correctly. I think, EU simply does the conversion of the text in clipboard in a right way, whereas other editors do.

BTW, I'm sorry again for lots of typos in the post about NoteTab. I've corrected them...

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Re: Other Editors which I like
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2010, 02:50:45 pm »
There are two clipboard format for text: CF_TEXT and CF_UNICODETEXT.
If editor queries for CF_TEXT it can work or not. Depends if code pages are match in both editors.
If editor queries for CF_UNICODETEXT it should always work, because it contains unicode character representation, and then symbol information can not be lost.

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Re: Other Editors which I like
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2010, 03:17:47 pm »
So you mean, UE doesn't query for CF_UNICODETEXT?

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Re: Other Editors which I like
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2010, 04:12:35 pm »
Probably.

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Re: Other Editors which I like
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2010, 04:37:57 pm »
Probably.

(Strange... The behavior described occurs in the most recent version...)

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Re: Other Editors which I like
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2010, 12:16:57 am »
I am not UE developer, so do not ask me ;)
I just mentioned most obvious reason.
From another side, maybe UE is not Unicode, but from that I remember, it is Unicode.
If HE lose characters dupring Copy/Paste, this is important to me :)

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Re: Other Editors which I like
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2010, 04:24:13 pm »
Kedit by Mansfield is the editor I have been using since the 1980's
It is a derivative of Xedit, a visual editor for VM/CMS using block mode IBM 3270 terminals.
The command line, row command, syntax formatting and KEX macro language have kept it relevant for over 20 years.
It's life is coming to an end and I'm looking for a replacement.

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Re: Other Editors which I like
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2010, 02:56:04 pm »
Good, this mean you can bring new old ideas to HE and share what is more valuable and better in Kedit.
Macros will come in HE in 1.50. The "selective line editing" looks for me interesting, because similar to one idea of the content based source grouping (independent from location) I already have.

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Re: Other Editors which I like
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2011, 10:55:19 am »
Like Alex, I would also highlight EmEditor. It is the only serious competitor to HippoEdit. The interface is not quite as nice but it is very fast and powerful. Updates are frequent and highly stable. I keep both HippoEdit and EmEditor installed. NotePad Pro is also worthy of mention - the interface is dated but is has a lot of interesting features.